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    Default Blank screens: some semblance of a "why" requested

    After much evaluation, I have decided to take my company down the Sugar road. Our experience thus far has been excellent--however, there is one debilitating problem. When attempting to post a new Opportunity or sometimes when adding a new Employee (not a user, mind you, an Employee) we get the dreaded Blank Screen problem. No PHP errors even though PHP is set to display them, nothing in the logs.

    I have researched this problem on this Sugar forum and others, and have tried the longtext-->mediumtext alteration, added die(''); to the end of DetailView and EditView, checked and doubled checked permissions, etc. and have done everything but upgrade my PHP installation.

    I'd be willing to do that if absolutely necessary, but to date, no one has said or posted or added to the bug-tracker WHY this is happening. I have read of this error manifesting itself by numerour denizens of this forum, but not a lot of assistance from the staff on this problem (they seem to be great, generally)

    I'm certainly not going to do a PHP upgrade on a box that runs a number of our important applications on the off-chance it *might* fix this problem. 4.3.9 works just fine on every other PHP app I have; if this is the problem, then I want to know WHY it's a problem; CRM isn't a passing fancy for us, it's our life's blood, and if the open source test drive of Sugar doesn't pan out well enough for us to live with it, I certainly won't purchase the enterprise version--we'll go with a big middleware vendor instead.

    Please note: Other than these blank screen problems (can't call 'em errors--nothing in the log!) Sugar kicks some serious ass. I am assuming that the enterprise versions with workflow are even better. However...

    Calling all Sugar engineers: please she some light on this, please. I'd really like to use your product, but I need to know what's up with blank screens. I can't purchase software that doesn't have support that gives quick and crystalline answers to things as major as big white screens.

    Kindest regards,
    Richard

    OS: RHEL ES rel 4 (kernel version 2.6.9-22)
    Sugar: 4.2.1a, clean install
    HTTP: Apache 2.0.52
    PHP: 4.3.9
    MySQL: 4.1.12

    ---
    addendum: PHP configure flags:

    './configure' '--build=i386-redhat-linux' '--host=i386-redhat-linux' '--target=i386-redhat-linux-gnu' '--program-prefix=' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--sbindir=/usr/sbin' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--includedir=/usr/include' '--libdir=/usr/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/libexec' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sharedstatedir=/usr/com' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--cache-file=../config.cache' '--with-config-file-path=/etc' '--with-config-file-scan-dir=/etc/php.d' '--enable-force-cgi-redirect' '--disable-debug' '--enable-pic' '--disable-rpath' '--enable-inline-optimization' '--with-bz2' '--with-db4=/usr' '--with-curl' '--with-exec-dir=/usr/bin' '--with-freetype-dir=/usr' '--with-png-dir=/usr' '--with-gd=shared' '--enable-gd-native-ttf' '--without-gdbm' '--with-gettext' '--with-ncurses=shared' '--with-gmp' '--with-iconv' '--with-jpeg-dir=/usr' '--with-openssl' '--with-png' '--with-pspell' '--with-xml' '--with-expat-dir=/usr' '--with-dom=shared,/usr' '--with-dom-xslt=/usr' '--with-dom-exslt=/usr' '--with-xmlrpc=shared' '--with-pcre-regex=/usr' '--with-zlib' '--with-layout=GNU' '--enable-bcmath' '--enable-exif' '--enable-ftp' '--enable-magic-quotes' '--enable-sockets' '--enable-sysvsem' '--enable-sysvshm' '--enable-track-vars' '--enable-trans-sid' '--enable-yp' '--enable-wddx' '--with-pear=/usr/share/pear' '--with-imap=shared' '--with-imap-ssl' '--with-kerberos' '--with-ldap=shared' '--with-mysql=shared,/usr' '--with-pgsql=shared' '--with-snmp=shared,/usr' '--with-snmp=shared' '--enable-ucd-snmp-hack' '--with-unixODBC=shared,/usr' '--enable-memory-limit' '--enable-shmop' '--enable-calendar' '--enable-dbx' '--enable-dio' '--enable-mbstring=shared' '--enable-mbstr-enc-trans' '--enable-mbregex' '--with-mime-magic=/usr/share/file/magic.mime' '--with-apxs2=/usr/sbin/apxs'

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    Default Re: Blank screens: some semblance of a "why" requested

    When do the blank screens happen?
    Are they repeatable?
    Does it ever go blank screen and then later work?
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    Default Re: Blank screens: some semblance of a "why" requested

    As with the other issues of this ilk reported on the forum, the timeline goes like this, consistently:

    1. Adding Opportunities works fine.
    2. Adding Opportunities quits working--blank screen.
    3. My Account --> reset to default prefs
    4. Go to #1

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    Default Re: Blank screens: some semblance of a "why" requested

    Similar problem reported here:

    http://www.sugarcrm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12322

    There are a couple of others as well, one of which was repaired by a PHP upgrade (http://www.sugarcrm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11753) --but a staff member never replied to the thread. THe only poster was the guy who posted the problem. No "why".

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    Default Re: Blank screens: some semblance of a "why" requested

    Quote Originally Posted by rlbyrd
    As with the other issues of this ilk reported on the forum, the timeline goes like this, consistently:

    1. Adding Opportunities works fine.
    2. Adding Opportunities quits working--blank screen.
    3. My Account --> reset to default prefs
    4. Go to #1

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    OK, get you machine to fail then post the contents of your user record in the users table, just the user_preferences if you want. It would also be interesting to see the contents before the error.
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    Question Re: Blank screens: some semblance of a "why" requested

    Quote Originally Posted by kbrill
    OK, get you machine to fail then post the contents of your user record in the users table, just the user_preferences if you want. It would also be interesting to see the contents before the error.
    also wht do you have your logging level set to?
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    Default Re: Blank screens: some semblance of a "why" requested

    I shall do so, but no modifications have been made other than the basic user level information (name, email address)

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    Default Re: Blank screens: some semblance of a "why" requested

    FWIW: When add an Opp stops working and I use the My Account/Reset to default to get it going again, it works throughout the session. However, by following the steps below I can reproduce it every time.

    1. Log in. Add Opp working.
    2. My Account/Edit/Save. (don't change anything, just save it again with the same data)
    3. Opportunities/Add Opp. Still works.
    4. Log out. Log back in.
    5. Opportunities/Add opp. Blank page.



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    Default Re: Blank screens: some semblance of a "why" requested

    (PS: That column that went from ~200 bytes to over 550 bytes is "user_preferences")

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    Question Re: Blank screens: some semblance of a "why" requested

    So your user prefs went from

    Code:
    Array
    (
        [remove_tabs] => Array
            (
            )
    
        [timezone] => America/Chicago
        [ut] => 1
        [Home_EMAIL_ORDER_BY] => date_sent, date_entered DESC
        [Home_CASE_ORDER_BY] => priority asc
        [Home_TASK_ORDER_BY] => date_due,priority desc
        [userPrivGuid] => e38badb9-a4ff-c5fe-da97-44c83ee3db3d
        [Home_PROJECT_TASK_ORDER_BY] => date_due,priority desc
        [Opportunities_OPPORTUNITY_ORDER_BY] => name
    )
    to

    Code:
    Array
    (
        [remove_tabs] => Array
            (
            )
    
        [timezone] => America/Chicago
        [ut] => 1
        [Home_EMAIL_ORDER_BY] => date_sent, date_entered DESC
        [Home_CASE_ORDER_BY] => priority asc
        [Home_TASK_ORDER_BY] => date_due,priority desc
        [userPrivGuid] => 6671d36b-9815-a9d0-a3e3-44c81f65a2a6
        [Home_PROJECT_TASK_ORDER_BY] => date_due,priority desc
        [Opportunities_OPPORTUNITY_ORDER_BY] => name
        [gridline] => off
        [mailmerge_on] => off
        [max_tabs] => 12
        [display_tabs] => Array
            (
                [0] => Home
                [1] => Dashboard
                [2] => Cases
                [3] => iFrames
                [4] => Contacts
                [5] => Accounts
                [6] => Opportunities
                [7] => Activities
                [8] => Calendar
                [9] => Emails
                [10] => Project
            )
    
        [hide_tabs] => Array
            (
            )
    
        [currency] => -99
        [num_grp_sep] => ,
        [dec_sep] => .
        [datef] => Y-m-d
        [timef] => H:i
        [mail_fromname] => 
        [mail_fromaddress] => 
        [mail_sendtype] => sendmail
        [mail_smtpserver] => 
        [mail_smtpport] => 25
        [mail_smtpuser] => 
        [mail_smtppass] => 
        [mail_smtpauth_req] => 
        [signature_default] => 
        [signature_prepend] => 
        [email_link_type] => 
        [email_show_counts] => 0
        [email_editor_option] => 
        [calendar_publish_key] => 
        [Activities_CALL_ORDER_BY] => date_start
        [lastTheme] => Sugar
    )
    I don't see anything wrong with that at first glance, maybe one of the sugar guys can look at it and let me know. I'll look and see if there is anything else reset by the 'reset user prefs' function. The only thing I do see is that your "[userPrivGuid]" changed but I don't know yet what that is. I'll see if I can find out what it does.

    What is your logging level set to. If it is not set to debug then set it to debug and cause the error again and send me the log that results.
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